Y'all got more of these masterpieces?
One Thousand Lies
A downloadable game for Windows, Mac OS X, Linux, and Android
|Published||255 days ago|
|Platforms||Windows, Mac OS X, Linux, Android|
|Tags||Anime, Comedy, english, philosophical, psychological, renpy, Romance, Short, spanish, Visual Novel|
|Asset license||Creative Commons Attribution_NonCommercial v4.0 International|
|Average duration||A few minutes|
|Languages||English, Spanish; Castilian|
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Will there be another more cool VN like this ?
I'm working on my next project right now, it's kinda big compared to this one so it will take some time, I hope I can announce it in a few months!
Welp I'm pretty socially awkward when typing in Spanish even if it's my mother tongue, please put up with me and english lmao ( at least my english's fluent? lol )
aaaah I just finished this, it took me 3 days tbh, cuz I've been in and out, but honestly oh did I enjoy reading this, good lord I'm a lazy ass tbh, lazy enough to quit if there's too much to read, but honestly I loved this to bits I'm even annoyed I finished it now pfft.
Well I read the other comments ( most of them ), and accidentally read your blog and the stuff about Claire, and I must say it's truly impressive, considering I myself have a hard time when developing stories pfft.
Really though, all characters were to deep in personality, story, concepts, and roles that I can't really tell you I disliked a character, cuz character development is something I'm strict over, and I must say it's truly inspiring seeing such well-designed, round, complex characters! Good job on that, it really left a great impression and taste on my mouth~
I did see everyone was commenting upon Claire specifically, or just characters in general ( tbh if it weren't cuz of that blog of yours I'd be lost bout Claire ), but I also really wanted to mention the plot as well.
I must mention I'm an aspiring writer, and there's two things I'm picky to death with, those being Character Development, and Plot. Honestly ( and sadly ), nowadays I find too much cliché and stereotypes in plots, and I must point out I did find it slghtly cliché when Ciar arrived just in time to ask Claire out, since it was in a very used setting, being both under the moonlight and after a graduation. However, it was implied so that it didn't rally make it cringeworthy at all, and even became kinda cute ( I must tell you I was raging over poor Ziva at that time, so I held a small grudge on Claire during that scene pfft ), and knowing who Claire resembled, made it pass and not count as cliché ( aside from the graduation part a bit ), so good job on that as well!
I do NEED to mention now. much. I lo v ed the whole story omg. And I might just rant a bit here but darn Left and Right, the Wolf, the Snake, the Crow, I loved that story to bits and pieces ( and there you go with the ranting again, this wasn't even my point but oh well ). Boy was I dying to know the whole thing behind that small story!! Now that my rushing mind reminds me I'll have to bother you but, do you happen to have any full explanation on what happens with the other characters in the story? I'd love to know if each one of them had a counterpart in OTL? Maybe they resembled somthing else? and is there a story behind why Left and Right had specific names chosen for the Wolf? Maybe he does have a real name? and the crow? what name did the wolf ask him perhaps? I'm really sorry but I'm always so curious when it comes to big awesome plots omg.
Anyways my point wAs, I am truly in love with this story, and its characters. I'll robably even end up making fanart pieces for each character aah, indeed I was just blabbering to my bff on how much I loved this story omg.
Also!! Random question~
I did see in the comments ( sorry I'm an impulsive reader sometimes lol ) that you'd choose ( oh omg I just remembered something I wanted to ask ) either Claire or Luce as your fave character varying on the days pfft
I wanted to know what did you think of Luce, since you already answered about Claire?
And what do you think about the rest? Maybe a fave male as well?
I personally love the three girls, but my constant debate goes between Luce and Ziva, for both exceed in both beauty and knowledge ( please don't take me wrong, I'm a she if that makes it sound less weird pfft ), so I'm thinking I prefer Ziva for being so lovable and extroverted, now that I think about it I also kinda identify with her on how I usually want to be ( if only I weren't that much of an introvert potato ), but really her impression development throughout the story's stunning, and also gives a warm feeling everytime the situation becomes too personal for her. But I also really like Luce for how her constant war with herself doesn't stop her from being how she is, even if she tries not to be it in front of others ( basically the Luce we see from Ciar's POV ), and the warmthness she gives is truly amazing tbh. I'd also say I really love how, while Ziva gives off a motherly, concerned aura at the end of the story, Luce gives a younger figure aura, a more carefree one, even if she still deeply cares, which also really makes me doubt in which I prefer, so I guess it's kinda the same feeling as you with Claire and Luce haha.
And my point before this was to ask, which one's your favorite pairing?
Oh and I read in your blog that all what Ciar was narrating wasn't true, well some parts, so I wanted to know if-- oh wait nevermind now I realize Ziva did mention hersel in One Hidden Truth that they indeed were a couple pff sorry.
But really even if it's just a bit for each, we can see Ciar develop a romantic relationship with each girl, so I wanted to know which one you supported the most? or which one is your fave?
( I'll butt in while proof reading, I remember I also thought Luce was gay for Ziva for a moment? Or vice versa? That caught me off guard lmao, specially since Ciar actually asks if she likes her heh, what are your thoughts on that maybe? )
Aaah one more and I'll stop bothering, I'd love to know if Ausse actually liked Ziva ( which is kinda obvious but still ), and if the thing with the New Substitute Teacher and J... I just downright forgot Jennifer's name but yknow who pfft, I wanted to know if that was one of Ausse's pranks or a real thing pffft.
Well I guess this is where my little "critique" ends, I'm really sorry and I do apologize for taking so much space from the comments section and time from you if you read this, and I'm immensely grateful if you really just were crazy enough to just read this insanity whole!!
But overall, I really loved this whole, and I'm honestly sad there's no more to read haha, I'll also add that I'm really grateful that you took your time to make such a grand thing for free, for us. I'd really donate but I'm still under my parents' care so I'm afraid I'm not allowed to, but you could bet I totally will if I ever get the opportunity!! ( see what I made there, I'm so lame omg lol )
Good luck on your upcoming projects! I really wish to see them already, and hopefully they'll be free, or affordable for a poor soul like me pfft.
I'm sure this comment alone can surpace the number of letters in OTL by golly I'm so sorry you should have a headache by now, but thanks for even skimming through this abomination here, I really hope to see you and your work anytime soon~
Thank you, really!
Woah that was a long comment. I appreciate it, though, I'm glad to see this... passion I guess we can call it. Also I'm answering in english since your comment is in english but Spanish is also my mother tongue so it may be a bit weird.
Well let's see there's a lot to comment. First I wanna tell you that I don't really like to give all the answers, so I may leave some things open. I prefer people thinking about it themselves. And second: SPOILERS, so for people reading this that doesn't know anything about the story, please avoid!
For the Wolf story, well there's a lot to comment there, I may create a blog entry about it one day but the main point behind it was to recreate what you were reading in the story to a point inside another story. The entire "story that should be true" in a more complex way with certain representations and metaphors. The other characters on the story, like the snake, crow and all that, they are not necessarily people from the "real world", but actually influences in the main character. Each chapter represents certain types of "pressure" the wolf receives, expectations he must fulfill if he wants to reach an objective. The very moment you need something from the world, the world will put labels on you on one way or another, that's why in each chapter the characters try to put a "label" on the wolf. The first chapter, about right and left, represents control, and how Ciar was obsessed with controling everything through lies to be able to reach his objective. The entire complex plan to express his feelings avoiding the risks of his trauma, it is made clear how his plan "will fail" because the sun "has already won", because how right and left, black and white, happiness or sadness, how they are change so brutaly at every given moment during this chapter. Because they are all lies, and with so many lies you can't really control anything.
The second chapter with the snake is about tentations. The vivid colors of the snake, her attitude about being really close and flirty. Those represents tentations on Ciar about going "one step ahead", in this case saying the truth about his feelings. However he knows how tentations can lead to the poison of the snake. There's fear of failing now that things are going well, and at the end avoids the snake just to suffer more and more in his doubts, just because at the end all he wants is to make sure the the moon will be there to run away in case he needs it.
The crow chapter is about relationships, that's why is about a collaboration between the wolf and the crow, how they need each other to get an objective, in this case represented through food. What Ciar is trying to express here is how he managed to make it so far until now thanks to his friends (Ziva, Ausse, etc...). He needs of society to reach the sun, all humans needs of others for everything and nobody is truly fully independent, however what is put in doubt here is how real can this relationships be considered. Is there really love? Friendship? Or is everything just people acting for their own benefit (including yourself)? That's why this part of the story is called Real, and the crow never gives his name. In the previous story it was right or left, warm or cold, in this it should be real or false, but it is never really expressed which one is the correct one. So, are these relationships real or false? That's what the wolf (Ciar) doesn't know. Or doesn't want to know, because he himself may be false too.
There's more to it than just this. The references to Skoll and Haiti, Yagatarasu and some other things, but I'll leave those for people to investigate themselves.
Now, about my opinion for the characters. Let's see, this may take long.
Luce: she's great. I just can't help but love her. I tried to create a character that people would fall in love with. Not so much because of her aspect (that she's pretty sure, but Ziva for example was made more appealing exactly for this reason), but because of her personality. I wanted to create someone that you would fall in love with her a little bit more with each scene. So you first see her and she almost doesn't talk, then in each scene she's more and more brave, opening herself more, and showing how strong she actually is. She's the strongest character in the game, she manages to overcome everything by herself and just by her power of will. However, she still becomes embarassed about showing certain parts of herself, and doesn't really want to to be labeled by other people. In that aspect I took some aspects that actually happen to me to try to make her more realistic and tackle some themes in the novel, to make sure her character is more complete. The final plan was to make sure that you, the reader, fall in love with her, so you can identify better with Ciarán at the end and become overwhelmed when she actually saves you, and not the other way around, changing the usual style romantic visual novels follow where the guy saves the girl.
Ziva: She's pretty, and in this case I wanted to make it as a more perfect character. She's the best in every aspect. She loves the main character in her own way, she's popular, helpful, caring, attractive, she's even good at videogames! In a lot of visual novels and anime one thing that happens a lot is how there's clearly a girl that is better at everything that everyone loves, but the main character goes with someone else for no real reason and makes everyone mad. Here I wanted to defy that in a different way most people would understand: Ziva is perfect, but she's not the most compatible person with Ciarán. I think this is something really important that most creators don't know how to handle. The scenes between Luce and Ciarán are interesting because you can see a chemistry between the two. Sure they insult each other and all that, but it's made obvious how their compatibility is really high, however with Ziva is different. They are not compatible, they can be friends, and Ziva sure, is great, but it's not what Ciarán needs. Her caring aspect is not good for a Ciar that, due to his trauma, can't really accept help from other people, that suffers when people spend their time or efforts on him. Luce is different in that aspect, she even bullies Ciar from time to time, but that's precisely what Ciarán needs. So here comes the point: sometimes the best for us is not "the best" option, but the one that helps us to grow, so even though the story with Ziva ends kinda... let's say... bad, at the same time I think no one really felt as if it was forced, people can relate to how Ziva is great but there's a pit that separates the two that can't be helped. Life is not fair, and sometimes you can't do anything about it.
Ausse: Oh man Ausse is such a great character. He's a character that has survived me some other novels and projects that never actually came to light. The first point was to make him the cliche flirty friend that loves all the girls, and sure he is, but it was all to get to his conclusion and theme at the end. About how the personality can't really be set in stone for someone, how people can decide what to be or how to act depending of the situation and that's not a bad thing. People get obsessed about being "something" or "someone" in particular. I'm personally tired of hearing that "just be yourself" as if "yourself" was actually something. People change all the time, they act differently with different people, and that's ok. Ausse takes that and makes jokes about it, becomes whom he wants to become and helps the main character in his own way. Sometimes people think that you can only be friends with someone when you talk serious or deep themes, but I think a good friend can also be that guy that only wants to make you happy, even if it's just with silly things.
Diniz: some people have actually complain about how Diniz wasn't really developed that much, but I think that was a bit the point with him. He's more the kind of the "observer" character, someone that is "just there". You don't see his personality directly since he doesn't talk that much, but through other people. How he was in the past, how he acts in the present. He knows everything but tries to not do that much, he's a bit the opposite to Ziva, trying to help by "not helping". I think he's interesting enough and leaves the reader with doubts and ideas about him that helps to don't make the general plot not so easy. So he's more of a support, a small role that actually impacts big if you keep attention to the details (he's mentioned as soon as in chapter 2, but most people don't even realize this).
Ciar: well he's the main character, so I guess he's my favorite, not so much because of personality but because how complete he is. It's obvious he's the most developed character, but well, this is his story, it's all about his development, so there wouldn't be any point to this story without him. The main point I wanted to make with him was how he was a character in a gray area. Most characters in all stories represent something in society, they are important with great lives so they catch attention, or they are depressive, lost at the bottom, trying to make everything sad. I wanted to make something different with him, as if someone who doesn't really have a reason to be sad or happy. He's not unkown in his class or school, he's a clown after all, but at the same he's kinda unapproachable, since he's so sarcastic and a general asshole about everything. So that puts him in a gray area, people knows him, nobody really cares about him since he seems to be doing well, but at the same time nobody admires him, nobody really wants to be close friends with him. All his relationships are superficial and mediocre, and there's really nothing that makes him special. With time you can hear about his trauma and leg and everything, but the point of all that was how it all was psychological, how he actually didn't really have any problems. Nobody ever blamed him of anything, nobody ever throught high of him: and that was made him suffer. People need an identity, they need to be someone to somebody, to be able to be proud of something, and that was kinda the point about this character and his relationship with Pygmalion story. I think he represents really well the current youth in society, how nowadays most people can't really complain about their lives since they had all their basic necessities covered, they had good families, education, money, everything. But at the same they are nobodies, they are just one more person among a million, they are not the best at anything, neither the worse, they don't have any sad story to share, neither a victory. That gray area creates a void of emptyness in a lot of people, and there's no answer to that, not help.
For the pairing, well I'm the author, so I'm with the pairing I put at the ending lol. I understand some people would like more some other pairings but I guess that's ok, not everyone will feel the same about what I tried to convey and that's great. Same for a possible Ziva and Ausse pairing, I'll let people think what they want about that. Also the Luce and Ziva thing wasn't really gay lol (well, again it's ok if people want to think that), but it was more about Luce just admitting how Ziva was so great. Luce is not really envious or anything and she can be really direct about what she thinks so she doesn't have any issues stating how Ziva is obviously a better person than her, and also has a great body (maybe she has a bit of concern about a lack of something? Oh... I better let this for the readers once again).
The Ausse thing at the end was a bit of a joke and not. The situation actually got out of hand for him, to a point it would put him in an embarassing moment, but since people is used to him being a prankster nobody actually took it seriously. It was a small point I wanted to make about how sometimes being a liar can be really useful if you don't want to be labeled of anything. Nobody would take a clown seriously.
I think this covers everything. Wew that was long. In any case thanks again for your comments, and feel free to ask anything any time again (you can do it in spanish if you want lol). Bye!
Aaah omg tysm for this I feel bad now that you've typed so much omg lol
I'm so hyped over how you've put so much effort in your story all those answers were so developed and it really showed once again how much effort you had put in this whole project.
Aah lo siento, sé que es tu idioma natal también, solo que supongo que estoy más acostumbrada a escribir en inglés ( además me da pereza poner tildes y eso haha )
Also I'm pretty socially awkward when it comes to spanish, for I don't use much expressions with people here, however I d talk a lot online so I guess english would be better to transmit my emotions more clearly haha
and english doesnt need accents ;;v;;
Anyhow uhh I had some questions but I guess I forgot ergh
Oh if it's not creepy, and if I may ask, are you male or female?
I instinctively thought of you as a male, since I mostly see males working on video games rather than females, not for a stereotype but for life experience pfft. However, I saw you getting called a she in a comment, so I got confused lol
Its not really needed but I guess it kinda changes the way I see you, not on my thoughhts but on my impression, if that makes sense pfft.
Now uhh I did have a question, so I'm not leaving without remembering what was it haha;;
Umm I remember it had to do with the front page, I told myself to think in the frint page and I'd recall, but now I don't oof.
Some random questions-- omg you should have a Tumblr Ask Blog for the OTL Crew omg it'd be hilarious and amazing tbh I'd totally spam your feed there pfft.
Does Lice have any drawing style you think of? or did you not think of that lol
I really imagine her going to the realistic sci fi anime style, yknow that one that isn't really anime looking, but it also isnt realism either.
Also about Ziva, she seemed really hurt with the breakup, but were her feelings out of real love or just fake ones she developed due to the pity and need she felt of helping him?
I know you wanna leave questions open to the crowd, so you don't really need to reply to these lol
oof I still can't remember what was I gonna ask
Oh what was Ziva's original introduction ( without Ciar's cosntant interruption ) gonna be? I would've liked to read that too lmao
Aah well sadly I don't remember any of the questions I wanted to make, so you'll have to put up with me later when I remmember ;;v;;
And I really love this story whole hh all the hidden stuff behind it's highly amazing as well ~
I'm a guy, male yes. I don't know why someone called me she before lol. I had a Trumblr long time ago but I didn't really used it that much. What I use the most is twitter (@Keinart) so you can probably find me there.
Uhmm the Luce thing, that's again one of those things I would like to leave people to imagine, but I think something more "mature" and "masculine" would be kinda funny, wouldn't it? Something like Punch of the North Star or Jojo, it would be special and the kinda unexpected thing I would love to find out of someone like Luce.
And the Ziva thing, well, they were kids after all, so they really never had a true relationship as to be sure if they were in love with each other. It's that more pure love or just caring for an old friend? Ziva is the kind of responsible woman that takes care of everything she does by himself, it is mentioned a few times how she took all the work for the committee and some other things until everything would be perfect, so it wouldn't be weird to think that the thing Ziva had with Ciarán was more related to her sense of responsibility than actual love... or maybe not. Again I prefer people thinking about this.
Also her introduction without Ciar it's something like this: "Hi, I'm Ziva. I'm from the same class as Endyein. I love to study the human brain and I hope to become a psychologist one of these days." Kinda the normal introduction, isn't it? I think it's a lot better how it is right now, even if Ziva gets mad for it.
Ahhh sorry for the later reply I never got any notification for this ;;v;;
Andoh fine then thanks for answering ^v^
And yeet if I ever download Twitter again I'll make sure I follow!
Also omg sorry for all those typos I hadn't noticed;;
Omg I just looked those up and those would truly fit Luce tbh pfft I can totally picture her drawing like that
Yep Ziva being more on the Mom Friend duties rather than actual love makes sense, but her being so hurt also got me thinking a lot about it haha. And her introduction indeed is pretty normal and neutral, Ciar really gives a great introcuction for her pffft
Again thanks for replying!!
If i could Explain this in 1 word it would be
UNBELIEVABLE. I have never experienced a game like this and im even sad that it even ended so Keinart Good Luck in your future projects and may the force be with you.
1 question. *SPOILERS*
But when Ciaran says to Ziva can we break up does he mean break up in a Boyfriend/Girlfriend Sense or some other sense ?
Yes. Although not in a traditional sense. It is explained in the true ending, so make sure to click on "One Hidden Truth" in the main menu after the normal ending.
partner,simplemente estupendo, llore la primera vez que me lei la historia entera, despues vengo aqui y veo que tienen todos sus teorias extrañas sobre claire, asi que tengo ganas de decir la propia y luego decir mis agradecimientos
desarrolle dos teorias, bastante distintas entre si, y muy alocadas tambien.
1° la muñeca nunca existio, claire es una acosadora desde siempre
el juego nos dejo claro dos cosas, todo inicio porque raptaron una figurita, y si la muñeca era un cebo? el correo tenia el nombre de alguien que no endyen no conocia, se puede deducir que es alguien que se creo una cuenta con ese nombre, o que uso la cuenta de alguien mas,pero como sabria el correo de ciaran? se lo tuvo que haber preguntado a alguien, u conseguirlo el mismo mediante una charla, u acoso, nos quedaremos con la ultima, porque lo mas probable es que cuaran no tuviera correo hasta los 13,14 años y no conocia a la acosadora a esa edad, y ningun personaje que conozca su correo (el pervertido y la bruja) conocia a la acosadora antes de que se enviaran los correos, y si, la acosadora de la que hablo es claire (solo ella y ausse acosarian a alguien aparte de la victima), porque digo que es acosadora desde siempre?, no tal cual, pero, lo mas probable, es que haya conocido a ciaran en su escondite, la bibilioteca, para ser mas especificos, durante alguna clase de musica, ella, lo veia desde alguna esquina u entre las clases, por lo que ciaran no la recuerda, ella presencio el accidente desde las sombras por asi decirlo, se enamoro de el y su mentalidad la llevo hasta acosarlo durante varios año, de alguna manera se entero de que estudiaba en enatae y pidio que fuera a estudiar ahi,pero no sabia que se fue a dujane despues del accidente y sus padres se rehusaron a cambiarla de colegio de nuevo debido a problemas economicos, al ser tan pequeña, ciaran no se daba cuenta de su presencia, al ver lo mucho que sufria, decidio crear un plan maestro, donde ella pondria una muñeca a la venta, obviamente falsa, y mandaria un correo con algun correo de un compañero u falso ,para que, sabiendo como era el y sus amigos debido a tanto tiempo de acoso, terminaria aceptando ir al lugar indicado, para encontrarse con luce aurea, conociendo la personalidad de ambos ( tambien acoso a luce para su plan), de alguna manera volver a luce el "sol" y que al final ella se vuelva la "luna", la que le daria el descanso despues de todo lo que habia pasado, el accidente, separarse de sus amigos,etc . por eso fingia no saber donde quedaba la muñea, porque era falsa, y la caja que se muestra al final de una verdad oculta estaba vacia por lo mismo. basicamente,ella planeo todo el juego de alguna manera para que ciaran, su amor, pudiera ser feliz, y si dicen que claire estara loca pero no es acosadora, como es que puede leerlo como un libro abierto si ella apenas lo deberia haber conococido, y hasta sabe la ventana que conduce a su habitación.
2° hay dos claire
esta va a estar algo fumada, hay dos claire argyris, una es una manifestacion del efecto pigmaleon y la otra, es una chica que estudia en enatae, y que va recibiendo la informacion de la ultima, el principio de la historia y durante partes de la misma, se dejo claro que ciaran tenia un gran aprecio por sus muñecas, pero porque este? lo mas probable es que haya desarrolado un trastorno debido al accidente, donde sentia de alguna manera que sus personajes si podian entenderle, el le agarro tanto a amor a una de ellas, o se creyo tanto lo de su trastorno, que la muñeca, cobro vida y aparece solo ante ciaran, causa algunas cosas, como los correos y la claire que vemos en "cuento de una primera cita", y despues le la informacion a la claire real, la cual es una chica que tras ver en algun momento anterior cercano a el pedido de la muñeco a ciaran, se enamora a primera vista de el, y ciaran, al ver el ligero parecido a ella en la muñeca, la muñeca toma su aspecto y la habilidad de pasar la informacion de sus acciones a la claire real, aqui solo se puede decir que hay dos pruebas, la habilidad de la claire falsa de saber todo sobre ciaran, y una pequeña escena algo controversial, al final de "cuento de una primera cita", cuando se revela que claire fue quien le mando los correos a ciaran, aqui se dice que su sombrero salio volando y que luego ella desaparece, pero si es un lugar tan alto, un sombrero sale volando, lo mas probable es que termine en el techo de alguien o que se haya topado en el camino de alguien y lo haya tirado o regalado, las posibilidades de que lo haya encontrado son casi nulas,y el hecho de simplemente haya desaparecido apoya esto bastante (y no chicos, no creo que se haya lanzado por el sombrero y que no haya tenido nada)
ahora los agradecimientos:
gracias a ciaran, por hacerme entender la felicidad no esta en las metas
gracias a luce , por mostrar que un amigo no lo es hasta compartir con el un secreto/experiencia/verguenza
gracias a ausse, por enseñarme que aunque seas rico, puedes ser humilde y que el amor aunque sea pervertido, sigue siendo una clase de amor
gracias a ziva, por enseñarme a nunca dejar que un amigo sufra
gracias a diniz, por enseñarne que lo mejor que puedes hacer es guiar a tus amigos
gracias al calvo, por enseñarme que por muy mala actitud que tengas, puedes ser lo que sea ( esto se me vino hasta 2 o 3 veces que me vi la historia)
gracias a claire, por mostrarme que todos necesitamos una luna en nuestras vidas
gracias a los que seleccionaron la musica, por ser capaces de transmitir sentimientos casi propios con musica no compuesta por ustedes
y gracias a keinart, por escribir una historia que me lleno de todos los sentimientos posibles, una historia que se basa en hechos proximamente reales
espero tu proxima historia, keinart,sera genial seguro
No se si al terminar el One Thousand Lies seguiste con el One Hidden Truth que sale al terminar y es que Ciaran le explica a Luce que el planeo todo...pero buenas teorías tienes una mas fumada pero igual de buena.
Aun así quería que dieran mas información por lo de Ziva, quería saber un poco mas como terminaría su relación con ella solo por curiosidad, de hecho quiero mas de la historia...UNA CONTINUACIÓN!
First of all, I would to thank you for creating this amazing VN. It's probably the best free VN I've ever read with a unique story and hilarious character interactions.
However, i would like to ask a simple question. If you're fine with sharing, can I ask how many words long was this VN? Thanks a bunch!
Thank you! The novel is around 110k words long if I remember correctly, more or less.
Incredible (PLEASE READ!!!)
The only word that is close enough to even slightly describe the contents of this novel. I pretty much made an account just to be able to communicate with you, the author.
I'm still trying to figure out what is going on with Claire... You gave some clues in another comment, but unfortunately Google translate failed me once again... Could you perhaps help me out? So far I think that Claire was imaginary, her purpose only being a way of explaining where the e-mails came from. Was she Ciarán's DECEPTION? Did he try to deceive himself by personifying a part of him; acting like it was her/this part's fault for sending the messages? Maybe she is the part of Ciarán that wants to stay away from people. So when she wanted an answer on Graduation day it was litteraly Ciarán asking himself wether he wanted to stay alone(be with Claire). In the end we saw him propose to her. Perhaps he decided to stay alone(with Claire) forever? What I still don't get is how other people still see her as a person... Maybe it's Ciarán speaking or what he is currently thinking... Although it wouldn't make sense since when they were playing poker Claire won and Luce congratulated her (kind of). Then again when they were competing against each other Luce told Ciarán that he had won once previously and she had won once too. So was Claire's victory a lie? Had Luce won on the poker match or was victory hers too since Claire was on the girls' team? Also, Claire's sudden appearances and the fact that Ciarán said she was always with him kind of give us a hint about her non existence. I need to read this again but these are my current thoughts. Though, in conclusion I think she's the other part of Ciarán. The one afraid to be with people. Let's not forget that when Ciarán left the phone on the desk to talk to Claire no one really spoke, since Luce didn't hear a thing. I feel like Ciaran was lying to us; the readers (or maybe even to himself).
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Now, the other thing that caught my attention were all the greek related names. As a greek myself, I found it fun to realise that some of the names you used have greek origins, or they even are greek words written with English characters. For example Luce Aurea. Here you obviously used the greek adjective ωραία (meaning: pretty, good looking). You explained that Endyein comes from greek too. Also Claire's surname is a greek name nowadays (Argyris / Αργύρηs). I'm confident that in Ancient Greece you could've found someone with that kind of surname since most people used their father's name as a surname. For example: if we used this kind of surname method nowadays if your father was named, for example William your surname would be Williams. Surnames like these still exist but we are no longer named after our fathers as you probably know already. Sorry I started ranting... I got a bit excited that's all.
Well...This is more like a letter to you now XD
If you read this far, thank you! I've never really written a comment this long... But I'm not exactly a fan of comments either, since I'm either too bored to write anything or too shy to state my opinion. But your story made me want to desperately try to get a few answers and opinions out of you. I really hope you reply because I'd love to hear your opinion on my theories.
Wow, thank you, I'm glad you liked it so much. Let's start from the beginning and see what I can answer:
Everyone is always confused about that character lol. I actually prefer not to say it so I can let people think about it, but I can say you are not totally mistaken with your assumption and are actually pretty close! I personally prefer if you think more about it instead of giving you the answer directly, but If you still wanna know for sure what happened I can tell you that someone in the Steam forums of the game managed to solve it, so you can look there to find the answer. Since someone "already solved it" I took the freedom of creating a personal blog too where I give some answers about One Thousand Lies and some other things: http://keinart.weebly.com/
The blog is bilingüal so you can filter to only english entries. Still I personally prefer if people don't try to get the answer from me at least until they haven't think about it first. In the other hand I prefer to give an "official answer" because I hate those pretentious authors that never give any answers, I always get the feeling that they never actually had any idea of what they were doing and are just letting the fans to fill the holes in their own story with whatever they can come up. One Thousand Lies contains some certains points that are open in purpose, but mostly everything has an answer.
About greek, yes I used a lot of greek! The story after all is a new modern interpretation of the Pygmalion myth, so there's a huge greek influence. Ciarán's surname is also greek, ενδυειν, that at the same time is a variation of another myth, the myth of Endymion. For Claire you are not mistaken. I thought that was a surname, I didn't know it was a name nowadays.
For Luce however I made a bit of a play there so even thought it can be read in Greek, the main meaning for her surname is not from Greek but from Latin (but we all know how Latin took a lot from Greek anyways), so her surname meaning is actually "Golden". Claire surname is supposed to mean "Silver" so take your own conclusions considering the story (this is also something that I answer in the blog, so take a look if you want).
Anyways thank you very much for reading and for your comment, I appreciate it a lot.
I'm so glad you replied to my comment! I thought about Claire a bit and then I visited the website. I read a bit of the Claire article and honestly that's genius. I tried not to read much of it and I didn't read the steam comments, because I feel like Claire should remain at least a small mystery. That's her charm after all right?
I definately see how much work you put into her character and that's why I have to say she's one of my favourites. Although, when you put effort into creating each character you usually don't have a favourite. Since I'm trying to think of a general idea and characters for an upcoming webcomic (honestly I don't even know how long it's going to take me to start writing it) I kind of understand the feeling.
I started a new subject already?
I have so many things to talk about haha
Now, about the story:
Have you gotten bored already? I'm probably the definition of a chatter box, heh (representing Ciaráns weird smile)
(don't listen to that dingus; she wants me dead)
BACK to what I was saying; your story and the concept around it was incredible. (Using that adjective again? Really?) ("Shut up I'm trying to make a good impression here.") I hate your characters and I must say that is the worst visual novel I've ever read. I feel like even if I am much better than you, I found a marvellous novel. ("STOP COVERING MY WORDS!") (Oh come on I was saying good things about you) ("NO, you were insulting the excellent author!") (Oh now you discreetly compliment her? I didn't think we were that kind of person)
ANYWAYS, the last thing I wanted to say in this comment is that if you need any ideas or help for any upcoming novel, I'd be glad to assist you. I bet you have a wonderful team helping you but if you need another source of inspiration don't hesitate to contact me.
("See now I bet she got the wrong impression!") (You always give the wrong impression.) ("It was your fault!") (Bahaha. Of course it was. Am I not here on purpose?) ("...")
This was just a silly addition to this comment. I love this kind of stuff haha. (Yeah, keep trying to explain my existence.) ("I think I did that already (:") (Have I ever told you how much I "love" you?) ("No but that's so nice of you!") (You... -the following words were censored due to Italic's stupidity-)I have many more things to talk about, but for the sake of this comment I'll stop here. :) And I will definately check your blog once in a while!
Me encanto tu juego no se que decir me parecio absolutamente genial, me cree una cuenta solo para escribir esto.
Gracias por darnos algunas horas de diversión.
Este juego me encanto demasiado, en serio me dejo marcado, y quiero darte las gracias ya que los mensajes que quisiste dar a través de la historia me ayudaron mucho.
Ahora mismo lo estoy re-jugando para ver todas esas pistas de las que no me había dado cuenta antes, espero ver más trabajos tuyos más adelante. Si pudiese te donaría lo digo en serio pero ahora no es que pueda pero yo se que te lo mereces, un gran trabajo, increíble historia, excelentes personajes, banda sonora (que a pesar de no ser creada para este "proyecto") siempre ideal en cada situación.
Ojala algún día puedas contar ese secreto de la historia que deja tan marcados, gracias, y suerte en el futuro.
P.D.: Una preguntita rápida XD ¿como se pronuncia el apellido de Ciarán? es que siempre que lo leo nunca se como decirlo.
Gracias a ti por leerlo y por el comentario, me alegra que te haya gustado tanto.
Lo del apellido es normal porque es Griego (ενδυειν) y es algo complicado, se pronuncia como "endin", alargando la "i". Significa algo así como "adentrarse en el interior" y es de donde viene el nombre Endimión. En la mitología griega la diosa de la luna Selene se enamora de Endimión, y bueno, digamos que tiene una profunda relación con la historia al igual que con Pigmalión.
Muchas gracias por crear este juego, de verdad me ha encantado y me ha llegado muy profundo, tanto las historias que "escribe el protagonista" como la historia principal. Ha conseguido tanto hacerme reír a carcajadas como hacerme soltar alguna lagrima, y me he enamorado de todos y cada uno de los personajes, incluso el calvo cabrón xD.
Sin duda voy a donar, porqué una creación como esta lo merece, y pienso hacer publicidad de tu juego entre todos mis conocidos que puedan estar interesados.
Muchas gracias por darme estos buenos momentos y enhorabuena por esta obra de arte, tanto a ti como a todo el equipo que te ha ayudado, me he enamorado de vuestro trabajo y voy a releerlo varias veces, aunque creo que he conseguido comprender quien es Claire, no lo tengo muy claro, al igual que muchas de las personas que han comentado.
Un abrazo de un nuevo fan que estará pendiente de si sacas nuevos trabajos en un futuro, lo cual me encantaría, ojalá encuentres el tiempo y la posibilidad de hacerlo. ^_^
Hola, primero enserio que gracias por este juego y las donaciones por que enserio no me lo espere, fue muy buena idea colocarlo en steam y si te soy sincero lo baje solo al ver sus imagenes y que colocaban que era bueno y gratis y en español (mejor aun!) me esperaba mas una simple novela de amor cliche 1 prota 3 chicas escojo a una fin, pero enserio que despues de jugarlo me sorprendió y dejo boca abierta.
La musica para mi perfecta siempre en el momento adecuado simple pero eficaz, por los gráficos algo simple aunque las imágenes claves de las chicas son de 10/10 aunque me hubiera encantado ver mas escenas así ejemplo la de assue con la profesora y el Manolo o al calvo cabron con su metralleta y flauta allí si que quedaba en el piso muerto por un ataque de risa. Pero al ser un juego gratis se entiende y justifica.
La historia mas que perfecta tratas de temas profundos que se enlazan con la mentira y la sociedad y me fascinó luce me hizo recordar a mi adolecencia e identificarme un poco con su carácter y sentimientos.
Hay algo que si te pregunto me dejaste peor que una chica que dejan en visto y que no pude dormí ese día. Que es claire!? En comentario anteriores dijiste que nos fijaramos primero en su objetivo, con quien hablaba, como Ciarán la usaba. Es algo difícil saberlo sin foro de discusión jajaja pero lo que he logrado descifrar, para mi su objetivo es lograr que Ciarán logre superar su problema psicológico que al final lo llevaba a querer controlar todo lo que quería aunque no pudiera a no poder hablar con sus antiguos amigos ni poder entablar una relación amorosa nueva, ella a la vez seria como la compasion así como el cuento del lobo ella seria la luna y aunque no lo escribió Ciarán ese sol que creía que no podía alcanzar era luce (mas que evidente al final) me pregunto ahora con el final, ella existe? Es una mentira de Ciarán tan grande que se matearelizo? Si sería así tendría sentido, ciaran miente de una forma que el mismo termina creyendo eso así que tendria sentido claire sea ese alter ego de el mismo queriendo superar su problema con una apariencia inocente para no sentirse amenazado y usado por Ciarán para poder acercarse a luce aunque se lo niegue y quiera caer en la autocompadesencia.
Si es lo mas raro que he dicho toda mi vida pero ya no se que pensar en esos temas no soy bueno jajaja.
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Bueno con mi duda desahogada al autor, enserio que te felicito son pocas las historias que me dejan deseando mas ojala siguas mejorando y creando mas historias como estas, no te desanimes por malos comentarios en steam algunos de ellos esperaban muchos dibujos hd y ecchi por un juego gratis en vez de ver la calidad de historia.
Gracias por leer, saludos y felicidad!
Muy buenas noches. Ayer terminé la novela y para serte sincero es una de las pocas que suelen atraparme tanto como lo hizo esta. Quería darte las gracias por subirlo a Steam, pués ahí es donde la conocí. El título fue lo que me llamó la atención y obviamente la palabra "gratis" influyó un poco. Cómo estoy un poco cansado de la monotonía de los juegos de siempre quise probar algo distinto, ya sabía de antemano que era una "novela gráfica" (me gusta llamarlo así, espero no ofender) asi que le dí a "jugar" y lo "jugué".
Ya de entrada, las imágenes y la música me hacen sentir cómodo, me relaja, me incita a seguir leyendo y vaya que lo hice! y cómo lo disfruté fue algo asombroso, lo que he reído y lo que he llegado a sentir es indescriptible. A mi también, como dicen más abajo, el juego me duró mucho más de 6 horas. En varias partes quedaba reflexionando sobre las oraciones que citaban, en algunas ocasiones no pasaba la página para simplemente seguir escuchando la melodía, imaginándome la situación del momento...
En fin.. quiero ser breve porque sino, no termino nunca de escribir xD
Muchas gracias por subirlo/agregarlo a Steam y por sobre todo, gracias por crear semejante obra, a vos y a todos los involucrados.
Saludos! desde Rosario, Santa Fe - Argentina.
Hola! acabo de terminar la novela y me ha dejado una especie de vacío que no puedo describir. Realmente muchas gracias a tí y al grupo que te ayudó a crear esta hermosa obra, especialmente tener acceso a ella en español. Creo que por más que pueda comprenderse o traducirse un idioma nunca será lo mismo que podeer leer algo en tu lengua materna.
He de decir que esta novela me llevó más de lo esperado, siendo unas 14 horas de deleite visual, esto fue gracias a que en muchas partes del juego me quedé mirando la pantalla sin avanzar, debido a que en varios puntos del juego las frases me hacían reflexionar sobre mi propia vida, incluso creo que podría tener similitudes con Ciarán.
Algo que me resultó curioso fue que el protagonista no se mostrara en ningún momento, lo hace parecer que Ciarán somos nosotros, independientemente del sexo al que pertenezcamos tras la pantalla.
Aprovechando que en su mayoría aquí son de habla inglesa pasaré escribir algunos spoilers con motivo de pregunta.
Me han quedado algunas dudas, por ejemplo:
-¿Por qué Ciarán actúa como si no conociera a Diniz y éste pareciera que en ocasiones le sigue la corriente? ya que con Ziva no hace eso.
- ¿Qué es Claire?, ¿Un producto de imaginación de Ciarán?, ¿está muerta?, por otro lado los demás personajes se han dirigido a ella, así que esto último no puede ser, además de que la novela no tiene toques fuera de lo real.
Tal vez las preguntas sean muy tontas y se me escapó algún detalle, lo siento de antemano ^^
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Pasando a otra cosa, me gustaría saber cómo puede ponerse un juego gratis en steam.
No es que lo vaya a hacer ahora, tal vez nunca lo haré, pero creo que sería interesante darle vida a esas historias que guardo en una carpeta, aunque lejos estoy de saber utilizar Ren'Py, pero todo se aprende jajaja, y la verdad me vi queriendo tal vez hacer esto algún día inspirada por esta novela.
Ya sin más vuelvo a agradecerte a ti y a tu equipo por este fabuloso trabajo♥
Banda sonora: 10/10
Problemas psicológicos generados por la interpretación de cada uno: ??/10
Espero poder disfrutar más de estas novelas en el futuro!
Ah! y si se puede colaborar monetariamente en algún lugar déjame el link, ya que efectivamente hubiera pagado por este juego!
Muchas gracias a ti por leerla. Esta clase de comentarios hace que valga la pena todo al final, así que muchas gracias. Ahora, sobre tus spoilers:
1. Realmente tanto Ziva como Diniz no es que no actúen como si no le conocieran, sino que jamás mencionan el pasado e intentan hacerse los locos respecto a ese tema. Es un tema tabú ya que cualquier mención al mismo activa el trauma del protagonista y por ende el dolor en su pierna. Ya desde la presentación de Diniz intenté que los diálogos de Ciar con él fueran un tanto "extraños", como que da un poco de vergüenza ajena verlos, con silencios indebidos. Intentan actuar como si no pasase nada pero se nota que hay algo ahí que falla.
2. La segunda pregunta, bueno, esta es la pregunta que me hace todo el mundo jajaja. La verdad es que prefiero no dar la respuesta 100% y dejar que la gente sea la que piense al respecto y saque sus propias versiones. Aunque puedo asegurar que hay una explicación lógica detrás de todo lo de Claire. Te daré una pista de todas maneras, lo importante no es tanto lo que ella "es", o si existe o si no existe, sino el contexto en torno a ella. ¿Cuál era su objetivo? ¿De qué o quién hablaban sus diálogos? ¿Para qué la usaba Ciarán? Sólo existe una única respuesta a todas esas preguntas que tenga sentido, y esa es la realidad de esta historia. En un tiempo de todas maneras igual me animo a dar todas las respuestas de la historia claramente, pero prefiero dejar un tiempo para que cada uno se coma el coco lo que quiera.
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Sobre poner un juego gratis en Steam, pues sólo tienes que intentar pasar el Greenlight. Dentro de la propia Steam tienen esa opción y sólo tienes que seguir los pasos. El único problema es que tienes que pagar 100 dólares para poder entrar, y luego depende de los votos de la comunidad y un poco de suerte que te pillen. Pero oye, yo nunca pensé que me aceptarían y aquí estoy. Yo empecé como tú, tenía alguna cosa escrita y quise animarme a hacer algo más grande y me puse a aprender Renpy, un poco de programación y a intentar mejorar mi escritura. Para mi sería un honor motivar a más personas a dedicarse a esto y si esto es lo que quieres hacer, ¡HAZLO! No dudes, se pasan muchos momentos malos y muchos altibajos, pero luego puedes leer comentarios de gente que se emociona con lo que has escrito y hace que todo lo demás merezca la pena :)
Si quieres colaborar económicamente, pues bueno, aquí en Itch.io puedes "comprar" el juego (aunque ya lo tengas) dandole a descargar o puedes directamente irte a mi paypal: http://paypal.me/keinart De todas maneras el dinero es secundario y si te resulta difícil o no puedes usar paypal o cualquier otra cosa pues no te preocupes. La intención y el sentimiento es lo que cuenta.
Muchas gracias de nuevo y la mejor de las suertes para ti y tu futuro.
- Hi, just wanted to say that this game was beautiful. The soundtrack, the art, the story ( The conversations were articulate but still sounded like a bunch of friends goofing off, which I loved.) I laughed at all the little gags and references but the serious parts still hit me pretty hard. Just.. Thank you. It seems like you put a lot of work into this and it definitely paid off. I'm just a bit confused about the ending concerning Luce and Claires relationships with Ciarán. Considering I finishing the game in the early hours of the morning, I guess maybe I just didn't catch on. Anyhow, thanks again. It was really great.
Thank you very much for your comment, it's greatly appreciated.
Everyone is always asking about the ending. I understand it's a bit hard to understand, still I prefer if people think by themselves their own versions :)
Thanks for replying, I guess I'll think about it a bit more :) Have you got any other games planned?
Disculpa por decirlo en español pero tengo ganas de grabar el juego, quisiera saber si puedo grabarlo y me preguntaba si las canciones me detectaría copyright, gracias.
No te preocupes, español es mi lengua materna así que es casi mejor.
Sin problema, graba todo lo que quieras. Las canciones no te deberían saltar en el copyright ya que son todas gratuitas y de distribución libre siempre que no sea con fines comerciales. Este juego es gratuito así que puedes grabarlo, distribuirlo y hacer lo que que quieras con él siempre que no vayas atribuyendo su autoría a otra/s persona/s o venderlo con fines comerciales :)
¡Gracias por preguntar de todas formas!
So I was wondering , how I can support the release any other way than with Paypal :P?
This is actually kinda hard to answer. Itch.io does not offer any way of payment other than paypal, and the other alternatives I could give for people to give money would be stuff like Bitcoins (not everyone trust cryptocurrency), Stripe (it works just like paypal but it's known for having a few security issues), I could just give you my bank accont IBAN (but international transfers of money are pretty expensive) or in worst case scenario stuff like Steam or Amazon whishlists that I personally dislike. We are on a time where sending money online internationally is actually pretty hard and I personally don't know any other ways safer than Paypal to do so.
In case you trust Bitcoin, my direction is: 14HcJmXgMAZScnxNz8wYkQSHFPVdhDNh7J
Other than that, if you can't really send money or don't have any way to do it don't worry. I appreciate the thought and just enjoy the novel.
The novel is out now on Steam too. Check it out: http://store.steampowered.com/app/463390/
The greenlight has been a sucess and it only took 8 days! Thank you to everyone that has voted, I can't believe it! Thank you! http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=660334350
This looks pretty good, gonna give it a try [: